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Leigh Burne

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"First Acheron Queen" Edit

It just striked me that the Queen in Aliens now has to be called the "first" all the time now. That's really weird to me and it made me raise the question if the "first" part in the name is necessary?

It's quite obvious that A:CM is clearly non-canon now. Aside from Fox completly neglecting the game and not doing anything with it's material, it seems that other sources seem to be deeming it non-canon too. Remember the Wey Yu report?

Obviously this is just a personal gripe but don't you think adding "first" in the title kind of taints the Queen's name a little? Reminding everyone of that awful game that came out a few years ago?

I think it'd be best if the Queen's page was renamed to "Acheron Queen". That way, showing that it's past the events of ACM but still recalls them in it's 'after death' section, whilst the second acheron queen can stay within it's own category. We don't need to be constantly reminded that the Queen was one of two on LV426. If we really wanted that, we'd go to the second acheron Queen page.

It'd be like having to sacrifice the Queens name and add a 'first' in it because a second Queen shows up on the planet in one of those old late 80s Aliens comics. Heatlineheard (talk) (Contribs) 20:13, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

I see what you're saying. The reason I went with "First Acheron Queen" is down to how same-name monarchs are referred to in real life. Elizabeth I isn't just called "Elizabeth", the "first" part of her name is included to make it clear exactly who is being refereed to. As for the status of ACM, once again it's a case of Fox being frustratingly vague about what is and what isn't canon. I'm not sure its mere absence from Alien: The Weyland-Yutani Report automatically means we strike it off.
Not defending the game of course, because fuck that piece of shit, but at the same time we can't occlude stuff just because we don't like it. That's not our job and that's not the purpose of this Wiki. I remember how enormously frustrating it was having to add all the stuff about Hicks still being alive to his page, because the plot in that game is total bullshit, but at the end of the day that's the way it is. Or was. I dunno.
To be honest I'd be interested to hear what other people think about this. Maybe try asking around to get some other opinions? I know this place isn't massively active but there are at least a couple of others who should be able to chime in.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:24, October 13, 2016 (UTC)


Hey, Leigh Burne! FIrst and foremost, thank you for the Literature Barnstar in regard to updating comic book pages. I really love the Aliens comic series and I have fun reading over my comics and editing these pages.  Also, thanks for editing the Fire and Stone pages so Chronology lives under Behind The Scenes.  I'll remember that when I start to edit the Life and Death pages. 

Anyway, thanks again and thanks for keeping this page squeaky clean. Like I said, I have a lot of fun reading and editing Xenopedia.

SynthNorbert (talk) (Contribs) 19:42, October 18, 2016 (UTC)

No worries! Good to have you contributing.
The Behind the Scenes section just seemed a more appropriate place for that kind of thing. I'm not sure it'd be so necessary with the Life and Death series — don't they all follow on one after the other? — but the Fire and Stone comics came out completely out of order so it's definitely worth noting!--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 20:34, October 18, 2016 (UTC)

DAVIS 01Edit

Hey Leigh Burne,

I'm hoping you can help me accomplish something. I'm editing some pages related to Aliens: Defiance when I came across the Davis page.  Davis redirects to Davis One . What I would like to do is reinstate Davis as its own page related to the classification of these 15 specific Wey-Yu combat synthetics that Zula enters the Europa with. I would also like to change the name of the  Davis One  page to  Davis 01  since his respective classification is numeric and not alpha. Davis 01 deserves his own page for setting himself apart from the other Davis units. Let me know what you think.  SynthNorbert (talk) (Contribs) 23:51, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

On the former point, sure, I see no issue with that. Maybe rename it to "Davis (model)" just to be totally clear, as this is what we did with David 8 (model).
As for the second point, I know he's referred to specifically as "Davis One" (spelt out like that) at least once. Is he referred to as "Davis 01" at others? I'd have to check, but I'm not at home this weekend so I don't have access to the comics.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 10:33, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Purebreed and Transbreed category Edit

Hey Leigh, I have been thinking that the categories about the breeds are unneeded, afterall the whole purebreed vs transbreed concept was invented soley for one game and no other media thus it is a game mechanic to justify the different classes.

Since then movies and other media have shown Xenomorphs such as Queens/Praetorians take traits. The game itself is contradicted a few times by other media on other matters. I vote the categories get deleted or at the very least it is warned as a game mechanic and information on it is not to be taken literal, I might create a category for game mechanics as well since we do need a way to seperate what information is real and what is merely game mechanics as I note people are taken them too seriously. What's your thoughts buddy? --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 11:51, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Hah, coincidence, I literally just put a delete tag on the Purebreed category for precisely this reason. I'll give it a few days to see if anyone has anything to say about it and if not, I'll delete them.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:42, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
Very good. Games are fun and all but due to how developers have to interperate or justfy different classes etc via gameplay mechanics, rather than using the lore of the series, it can really be messy for a wiki. --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 12:48, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, let me chime in here. I think the Pure and Transbreed categories are fine and should stay. Sure, they're only in one game, but they're accurate enough.Werebereus - ಠ_ಠ 20:21, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
You know what? Forget it. The fact that you guys aren't even discussing it with the community tells me you don't care much for what we have to say, let alone me, so if you want to delete it go ahead.Werebereus - ಠ_ಠ 20:58, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
First off, that is your opinion and they are not fine or accurate because they have been contradicted, secondly we are discussing it with the community hence why we only put tags on the pages instead of outright deleting, we are giving you the chance to discuss it on the talk pages. So instead of getting angry and posting irrationally, you should read carefully what Leigh said, he will give it a few days so someone could have the opportunity to discuss it. --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 23:10, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Davis Model Edit

Davis (model) sounds good. I'll work on that sometime soon. In regard to Davis 01, in the summary section of issues two and three he is mentioned as Davis 01, using the number on his forehead about his left eye, which seems designate and differentiate all 15 units on board, but some have numbers higher than 15. Davis 01 destroys a Davis unit with the number 03 as well as a number 27 on their foreheads in issue 3. Any time Zula mentions his name she just says Davis. Looking through this series I cant' find 'one' wirtten out anywhere. Anyway, let me know what you think is best once youve had the chance to look it over. SynthNorbert (talk) (Contribs) 22:24, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

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