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QueenEdit

That is precisely my point, both sources contradict each other. The fact of the matter is that the queen-hybrid seen in AvP:R was created through a normal Facehugger, which begs to question how is that possible. Obviousely, it's in the film so it's not a matter of if it exist or not, but it is inconsistant with other methods that had previousely been established,which should be noted on the page.

As far as the Queen not looking the same in Alien3, well logically speaking if it was spawned from a human then it should look the same as the Queen seen in Aliens which was very likely spawned from a human.

(Hun-ta (talk) (Contribs) 12:43, November 20, 2014 (UTC))

There are a lot of inconsistencies in the franchise, especially the expanded universe. But if we take just the films by themselves, every Queen we've seen (except the Predalien) looks the same, and every one of those has come from a human (Aliens, Alien Resurrection and Alien vs. Predator). No real inconsistency there. The Royal Facehugger is only in the Assembly Cut of Alien3, so if we take the theatrical cut as canon, there's no inconsistency with which Facehugger can lay a Queen, either.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 12:47, November 20, 2014 (UTC)
 We never saw the Queen birthed from a human in Alien vs Predator, we do know however, that it is thousands if not millions of years old, likely brought onto the planet from another location. Point being is there is a problem with the origins and appearance of the Queen and it should be added for educational purpose if nothing else.
(Hun-ta (talk) (Contribs) 12:58, November 20, 2014 (UTC))
We don't know that at all. The Queen in Alien vs. Predator is ancient, yes, but so is the temple she is held in. The film explicitly states the temple used to be a human city, and that those humans were used to breed the Aliens the Predators would fight. It's never suggested the Queen couldn't have come from one of those people. Maybe she was brought to Earth from elsewhere, but I don't remember the film ever suggesting that. It left it ambiguous.
As for the conflicting representation of Queens taking traits from their hosts, it is mentioned on the page, under the "Hosts" section. If you wish to expand it feel free, but it already sums up the inconsistency fairly well.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 13:04, November 20, 2014 (UTC)


Exactly, the film states the temple was used for rites of passage yes, but it never touched on the subject of how the Queen was created, it's not even suggested. Is it possible that the Queen was born from a human? Possibly, but there's no evidence to support that. What we do know from the expanded universe is that Predators would capture Queens from hives and transport them to other locations and use them for rites of passage at their temples in other locations and planets. Following this, it's logical to assume, and yes it is an assumption, that the same thing was done to the Queen on the temple in Alien vs Predator
Yeah, I had previousely added material to it, but it was removed. As long as everyone is okay with it then I'll expand on it again.
(Hun-ta (talk) (Contribs) 13:21, November 20, 2014 (UTC))
"Is it possible that the Queen was born from a human? Possibly, but there's no evidence to support that."
Yes there is. It looks like the Queens in Aliens and Alien Resurrection, which definitely came from people. The one in Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem came from a Predator and looks different. So the one in Alien vs. Predator was presumably human-spawned too.
As for the expanded universe, I always take that with a pinch of salt because it's so loaded with contradictions. Not to mention Fox are apparently jettisoning all of the old EU material in favour of starting over with the films as a base. The most recent novels and the Fire and Stone comics form part of that new EU. Everything else is apparently being retconned or just ignored.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 13:38, November 20, 2014 (UTC)
That's just an assumption though, we never saw it occur and goes to show that Queens may still always appear as a Queen, other the the Hybrid which is apart of the contridaction of the expanded universe. That would mean that every single Queen (and empress) ever seen would all have to be human spawned even the Matriach. Which is all highly unlikely.
And really? I didn't hear about that, that's pretty lame.
(Hun-ta (talk) (Contribs) 13:45, November 20, 2014 (UTC))
It is an assumption, yes, but based on the evidence of the films, it is an entirely reasonable one. The films prove Queens don't always look the same, because of Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem. The EU may contradict that, but the EU on here has always been secondary to the films. The films are considered top of the pile when it comes to what is canon. The reason for that is trying to reconcile everything would be impossible because there are just too many things in the EU that don't work given what we see in the films. That doesn't mean everything from the EU is ignored, of course. But it's a very tricky situation.
Supposedly that's what is happening. There hasn't been any official announcement or anything, but allegedly the studio wants to start afresh and create an EU that fits around the films. So far they've had the books Out of the Shadows, Seas of Sorrows and soon River of Pain, the game Alien: Isolation, and the new comics that are running currently, and soon they are going to be doing more novels set post-Resurrection.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 13:53, November 20, 2014 (UTC)


Even in the films though there are inconsistancy. Such as with the Directors Cut of Alien 3 (naturally). But even Alien3 itself has many unanwered questions as to how a Facehugger was even boarded on the Sulaco among others. A:CM attempted to answer that, but created more plot holes than anything else. All we can really do is give the information that we have and a lot of it is inconsistent. Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem is also a spinoff cross over film as is AvP. So it is difficult like you mentioned. But like you said, it is still debated and just needed to be expanded on so it's all good and such.
I really hope they don't screw up any of the already established material though. It's a big pet peeve of mine when people backtrack stories like that.
(Hun-ta (talk) (Contribs) 14:06, November 20, 2014 (UTC))
Again though, the Assembly Cut of Alien3 isn't the 'official' version of the movie, and contradicts the theatrical version (which is). That's why story elements related to it are mentioned under separate subsections on the relevant pages on Xenopedia. The only extended cut from the Alien series that can be regarded as official is the Special Edition of Aliens, because James Cameron has confirmed it is the version he wanted to release originally. Nothing in it contradicts the theatrical version, the preceding film or the sequels, it merely expands upon the existing story unobtrusively. Plus elements from it (the sentry guns) were used in Aliens: Colonial Marines. The other alternate film versions all have scenes that don't really fit the overall continuity (especially Alien and Alien3).
I don't think Fox are actively looking to undo the existing EU. They're just ignoring it. As someone who knows almost nothing about the EU prior to the recent games and novels, I can't really say how well that will work.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 14:26, November 20, 2014 (UTC)
 Yes but that was what David Fincher had intended for the film, it was only the producers that fought with him and made him redo virtually everything. He talks about it in his interviews about how they fought with him on all of his decisions and fired him three times. He even states that he hates the theatrical version as it's not what he had intended it to be or what he wanted. 
 It's so strange, because the theatrical version itself has so many plotholes that are filled in with the Assembly version, though there are still some problems with it. It's kind of funny in a strange way. 
 It'll definitely be difficult for them, I have a lot of the older 90's comics and stuff. I'm personally very concerned with the Prometheus sequel.
(Hun-ta (talk) (Contribs) 14:56, November 20, 2014 (UTC))
"Yes but that was what David Fincher had intended for the film, it was only the producers that fought with him and made him redo virtually everything."
The only person who knows what Fincher truly intended for the film is Fincher himself, I'm sure he made changes during production as well. For example, I've heard that it was his idea to have the Alien simply kill all of its victims instead of cocooning some of them alive. The truth is we'll never know what was changed by the studio and what was changed simply because Fincher wanted to change it. If he had personally created the alternate cut in 2003 that would have lent it some additional credence, but he declined to be involved and we have to go with what we have. As it stands the Assembly Cut is nothing more than an unofficial alternate version, a "what-if?". (I actually much prefer it to the theatrical cut, but my own personal opinion is irrelevant, the theatrical release has to be considered official.)--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 15:14, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

New SectionEdit

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Sevastopol Drone Edit

Hey Leigh, I am wondering if you can let me know what site the devs had said that about the drone,  it could be used as a source, since a lot of folk are still not sure on what came from Foster. I personally would like to read it as well as I find the Sevastopol Drone quite interesting.  The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 13:13, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have a look for it. I'm sure I remember somewhere quoting them saying the Alien that follows you at the start of the game is the "main" creature, the one that started it all. I'll have to have a hunt around for it.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 14:56, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Human character infobox issuesEdit

I'm working on the Lisbeth Hutchins page, and I'm having issues adding her voice actor in the info box. The text just goes to the intro of the page. Any suggestions/help would be appreciated. Spikeygod69 (talk) (Contribs) 00:04, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Samwell Stone read throughEdit

Hey Leigh! If you or Toa have some time, would you guys give the Samwell Stone page a good read through?Spikeygod69 (talk) (Contribs) 22:59, December 21, 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have a look today.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 08:54, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
I also got the Lisbeth Hutchins article fleshed out. If you guys get a chance to go through it. Let me know if there are improvments to made.Spikeygod69 (talk) (Contribs) 19:30, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Sgt. Apone avatarEdit

Just wanted to say that is "absolutely badass!" Haha, Apone's always been one of my all time favorite characters from the entire AvP Universe, but not everyone speaks of him as often as they should.

Props for the avatar!

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 17:09, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Haha Apone rules.
"What do you want me to do, fetch your slippers for you?"--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 22:18, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

"Gee, would you sir? I'd like that."

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 00:17, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Apone Look
:D--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:03, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Goofs. Edit

Sorry. I never meant to sound uncivil.

I am getting rid of these goofs for a reason though. The ones that I'm getting rid of can be easily justified whilst the ones I'm not mean there really is no logical explanation.

Here, let me give justifications.


  • Like I said, Shaw is having an Alien caesarian in the year 2089. That's 74 years into the future and even in present day, medication is booming and becoming more and more advanced each year. Not only have we no idea how advanced medication is in Prometheus, but we also see Shaw take at least 3 shots of painkillers or something along those lines.


  • The vodka bottle standing up really is not a goof at all. Objects can land upright when falling.


  • This one annoyed me. Sorry for losing  my temper. The Deacon was obviously just an embryo gestating inside the Engineer and that it bursted for the very reason of being too big. It's not like it was transferred from the Trilobite into the Enginner AS IT IS NOW. It's like saying a fully grown man would have been too large to fit inside a woman's belly.


  • Even Toa is removing speculations on the planet being Earth. I find it hard to critisize something that is only a mere assumption.


I'm going to remove these goofs one last time. It's up to you weather they should stay or not but please put my reasons into consideration.


Heatlineheard (talk) (Contribs) 16:36, January 9, 2015 (UTC)Heatlineheard

Yeah, I looked it up and I've found a few sources ([1], [2]) where Ridley Scott says that's it's not necessarily Earth. The goof actually would support that's it's some other planet.--Toa Quarax(Talk) 23:25, January 9, 2015 (UTC)
"Like I said, Shaw is having an Alien caesarian in the year 2089. That's 74 years into the future and even in present day, medication is booming and becoming more and more advanced each year. Not only have we no idea how advanced medication is in Prometheus, but we also see Shaw take at least 3 shots of painkillers or something along those lines."
I'm sorry but I can't really agree. Saying "it's the future" just doesn't cut it. Shaw's abdomen is completely cut open, down to her womb, and all we see the med pod do to fix it is give her a couple of shots, staple her skin closed and spray on some disinfectant. Nothing is done to address the internal damage. Painkillers can't close internal incisions. You can't swallow a pill that will magically sew your insides back together. And the kind of physical activity she exerts afterwards would be physically impossible with any amount of painkillers in your system. At the very least, the staples would tear open when you start running and jumping around. Maybe if the film tried to show us some kinda of super medicine-wizardry it would fly, but it doesn't even attempt to make a realistic argument for what happens.
"The vodka bottle standing up really is not a goof at all. Objects can land upright when falling."
Again, it absolutely is a goof. Put a bottle of vodka in your car, crash it down a hill, and see if it's still upright at the end. The fact the bottle is intact at all is ridiculous, given that the rest of the pod is trashed. It's utterly unrealistic. It hasn't even fallen off the bar it's sitting on!
"This one annoyed me. Sorry for losing  my temper. The Deacon was obviously just an embryo gestating inside the Engineer and that it bursted for the very reason of being too big. It's not like it was transferred from the Trilobite into the Enginner AS IT IS NOW. It's like saying a fully grown man would have been too large to fit inside a woman's belly."
I rewatched this scene specifically to see if you had a point, and I'm sorry, but the creature that emerges is noticeably larger than the Engineer it came from. It's not a case of it bursting out because it had filled the space — it's larger than the space it was supposedly contained inside just a couple of seconds earlier. When you see it lying next to the dead Engineer it's obviously larger than the Engineer's chest cavity, and could not conceivably have fit inside. Of course it wasn't always that big, my point is the film shows us it's grown beyond the Engineer's capacity to contain it before it hatches.
As for the last goof, I happen to agree, it wasn't me who re-added it to the page...--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 18:45, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
Okay. My apologies. I was having a rather heated discussion over Prometheus and wanted to clear it's name through other methods. Of course YOUR justifications make a lot of sense. Though I'm still having doubts over the Deacon and the Vodka bottle.
Did we ever see what position the Deacon was in? It could have been in a contorted position barely managing to fit. Maybe the camera angle was just giving off the impression that it was big. Remember, Engineers are at least 8+ feet taller than humans. That's quite a lot of space.
Of course, that isn't enough to remove the goof but whatever.
Heatlineheard (talk) (Contribs) 23:15, January 10, 2015 (UTC)Heatlineheard
Well it's not really a case of clearing the film's name... Both good and bad films have goofs. Aliens has goofs. Aliens is literally my favourite film of all time, yet I've spent a lot longer compiling the goofs page for that on here than I have Prometheus. Just because Prometheus has mistakes, that doesn't make it an awful film. Similarly we can't ignore or unreasonably justify mistakes just because we love the movie.
In the scene after it's born, the Deacon is lying directly alongside the Engineer, and there's no way it could have fit in the Engineer's chest cavity, regardless of the position it was twisted into. The volume of it's head and torso were just too great. The same thing happens in the theatrical cut of Alien3, where the Chestburster that comes from the dog is virtually as big as the dog was to start with.
As for the vodka, I'll be honest I don't really understand why you can't accept that it's unrealistic for a bottle to land perfectly upright on top of a raised bar during a spaceship crash...--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 11:38, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
I never said it wasn't unrealistic. I said it was IMPROBABLE. But hey, what goes, goes.
I myself, as with a lot of others to prefer to consider the extended version of Alien3 canon. So in my opinion the runner was never birthed from a dog and instead, an Ox.
It's far more than improbable. It's like being in a plane crash and then finding a pristine bottle of vodka sat perfectly upright on top of a galley trolley when the rest of the cabin has been totally trashed, luggage and food trays lying everywhere. It just would not happen. Going back to my earlier analogy of a car crash, as someone who's been in a car crash, I can assure there's no way a bottle could've been standing upright after the violence of the crash, and that wasn't even a big accident.
And preferring the Assembly Cut of Alien3 doesn't really change the fact the Deacon in Prometheus is visibly too large to have fit inside its host.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 20:26, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
As I've had no response from you on this for three days, I'm going to add the goofs back into the article. I've explained my reasons why I believe them to be valid and haven't really had a counter-argument, so for now I'll add them back.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:22, January 14, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting imageEdit

AvPUniverse

Hey Leigh,

This is the original Fire and Stone promo art (before they updated it by opening the Alien egg Angela is looking at, changing Ahab's bio-mask and a few other things) and I personally feel it would look great on the main page somewhere, since it has everything from the AvP Universe; Aliens, an Engineer, a Predator, humans and even a Synthetic, amongst other things such as the Engineer vessel and a very Giger-esque feel. I went on to add the AvP logo on the bottom left.

Let me know your thoughts man. =} JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 09:24, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

That is pretty cool. I was thinking we need a new main logo for the site, the current one's never been that great. Do you have it without the added logo? I might toy around with adding "Xenopedia" across it, similar to the current logo.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:45, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
AliensversusPredatorUniverse

That sounds pretty amazing, I actually thought the same thing.

Here you go, highest quality as well:

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 15:14, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

Great, thanks a bunch. I'll start playing around with it when I get a chance.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 15:47, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

Been meaning to ask if you've had any luck with the photo? I wouldn't mind messing around with it if you like, since I normally make a lot AvP related images on Facebook with logos etc.. All I would need is the Xenopedia logo as a transparent png and I'd love to give it a shot you'd like =)

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 14:04, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Ah yeah, sorry, I completely forgot to get back to you! I did have a bit of a play around with it. The trouble is the logo can only be very small, and I was wondering if it was just too tiny to make out. Here's one of the ideas I came up with:
NewLogo01
As I said, it's a little small and hard to make out. Plus the text isn't that easy to read, but I struggled to make it more prominent without it looking too vibrant and garish. Looking at it again now though, it's not bad... But by all means try some things yourself, maybe if you come up with a few different options we could have a vote on it or something!--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 14:20, February 19, 2015 (UTC)
By the way, it needs to be a .png file and 250x65 pixels or less.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 14:24, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

It's ok man, no worries lol. I was about to say I'm actually really digging what you did with it! Think it looks pretty perfect, even better than current logo with the red background behind Xenopedia text logo. Love the scope of the image and how the logo is placed. Let me know if you still want me to try, like I said I think your version is just fine.

I feel it represents the entire AvP Universe pretty perfect and much better than the current image.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 14:30, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

By all means give it a go if you'd like!--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 14:35, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Ok where would I get the Xenopedia font logo?

If I could get a transparent Xenopedia logo I could pretty much come with a million different versions

Thanks =) JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 14:36, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I just used an Alien-themed font that I found online. There are tons of free font download sites, your best bet is to simply Google "free Alien font" or something. Actually I think the one I used was called Alien League, but I'm afraid I honestly can't remember where exactly I downloaded it from.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 14:41, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Alright I'll go ahead and take a look, I'll have to turn on my PC since I basically do everything via tablet nowadays, unless I'm making a Music Video or other tasks which obviously a tablet cannot handle. I'll keep you posted!

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 14:45, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Ok I'm still making more as we speak but one of them came out a little too pixelated for my liking, even more than yours as you can see here:
Xenopedialogotest002


Here was the original before cropping in case you want to give it a shot maybe it won't be as pixelated for you:
Xenopedialogotest001

Attempting to create a few more.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 16:16, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

What are you using to resize them? IrfanView is a really good free image editing program that'll resize stuff nicely for you.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 16:24, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Was just using Windows Paint. I'll take a look at that right away.

Thank you. JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 16:27, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Alright I got two new ones, both with the letters nicely spaced out Alien style, the first is 250x109 which I am very pleased with:
Xenopedialogotest250


And the second is 150x65, which is also good:

Xenopedialogotest150

I edited, resized and perfected the colors on both using the program you recommended.

Let me know your thoughts, I can whip up a few more if needed, but like I said, personally I really like how the 250x109 version turned out.

=)

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 18:07, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I like the first one. It still looks slightly pixellated to me though. Do you have a larger original? When I did mine, I added the text while the image was as large as possible, so it looked smoother when I reduced the size in Irfanview afterwards.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:53, February 20, 2015 (UTC)


Cool, yeah I'll go ahead and get it later today. So 250x109 works? I'll just add the text when it's at full size and then crop to 250x109. JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 18:01, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

No, it needs to be 250x65 or smaller, and it needs to be a .png file.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 19:35, February 20, 2015 (UTC)
Alright image perfected 150x65:
Xenopedia2015

I initially saved it as .png in IrfanView, so if there's any trouble with that let and I'll see what I can do.

Update: if it isn't .png I know how to fix it. Let me know.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 21:11, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm, the text still looks kinda blocky... I'm not sure why, because it didn't on the one I tried. I don't really know why that would be happening if you're resizing in Irfanview from a bigger image. Also it's .jpg file for some reason... Not sure how that happened either as you shouldn't be able to save a .png image as a .jpg on the Wiki.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:32, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah that is weird, let me try another trick on that image's text and also let me fix the .png issue. I'll let you know.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 15:20, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Ok how's this:
Xenopedia logo 2015 png edit

Tried to smoothen the letters a bit.

If not I'll try one more thing and if that doesn't work either, I'll send you the original large file so you can resize it yourself and see if you have better luck in the resize process regarding the text issue.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 15:43, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

It's still a little blocky, but better than before.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 16:38, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Cool, want me to do another? Or want me to send you the original file?

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 16:51, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

I don't mind, I can give it a go if you'd like.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:47, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good, let me turn the original one into a .png and I'll send it your way. Also while I'm at it I'll go ahead and make another as well. Will send both later today. JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 06:28, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Hey sorry for the delay, my neighbor's been going to the hospital a lot (he's in his eighties) so I've been helping him. Anyways here is the original file in .png glory
Xenopedia logo 2015 3x
And here is my latest edit:
Xenopedia logo 2015 4x edit

The latest version I feel looks a lot less blocky now.

Let me know what you think! =) JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 16:21, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

That's no problem, no real rush to get this done! It still looks a little blocky to me... I had a go at resizing the original myself and got the same result. I don't really understand why, the version I had a go at originally didn't seem to have this problem. Not sure how we could fix it. But I agree the latest one looks the best.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:28, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Ok cool no worries. Hmm yeah not sure either, but if you think the latest one looks the best then I can keep doing what I was doing and I do believe eventually I could fix this issue. I'll make a few more today and send them your way see what you think.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 15:17, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Alright my friend, how's this one?
Xenopedia logo 2015 6x

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 06:29, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

That looks pretty good! The second E is a little hard to read against the light background, but otherwise it looks better. Sorry, don't mean to keep picking holes in it, but if we're gonna have a new logo it should be a good one lol! But that looks great. Some point soon I'm gonna show a copy to Toa and The Cruentus to see what they think. A change like this should probably be put to everyone!--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:29, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! =)...No it's ok I fully understand lol, I'm a bit of a perfectionist myself when it comes to things like this, and now that I have a good idea of how to fix the blocky text I could just rinse and repeat till it's perfect. I'll go ahead and make one or two more later, see if I can do anything about that second E. Oh yeah for sure no worries sounds good!

I'll send another edit(s) later. JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 17:43, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

AVP: The Creature Effects of ADIEdit

I stumbled across this by accident when searching for the Prop Store's (apparently now deleted) page on the piton gun. I thought you might find it useful since you were adding some BTS info to AVP -related pages.--Toa Quarax(Talk) 00:41, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Ah cool, thanks for sharing. I'll have a look through it some time.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 08:59, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

SXSW Awards Edit

Got a message from a staff member called Raylan13 about SXSW awards, the staff member would like permission to place a badge on the main page of Xenopedia that links to it, as far as I am concerned, it seems ok but what do you think?

p.s I have been thinking about changing the look of my user page, any tips? The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 19:37, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw the message. Sounds like a good idea to me! As for your user page, it's kind of up to you haha. What did you have in mind?--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:06, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
Kind of like yours I guess but red, I also need to get a new signature, I feel so old due to my lack of "modern" style on here lmao.
I will see Toa says before giving the staff member the green light. The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 15:08, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
Well if you want to use my user page header as a starting point, here it is. You can easily switch out the colours, text and image for whatever you want. If you're not sure how I don't mind lending a hand.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 15:24, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
I will give it a try, I have never been that good at coding though, so if my page suddenly has a nuclear sign symbolizing imminent meltdown, run as fast as you can. XD The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 16:58, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
Good job. I basically had to learn it all myself when I started here (mostly by stealing code from other stuff that I liked the look of haha), but it's not too tricky once you get the hang of it. The only thing I might suggest is a slightly darker red, the one you have now is practically florescent and it clashes a little with the dark colour scheme we have one here :D Just a suggestion, of course, it's your page at the end of the day!--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:15, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Signature Edit

Right, I have sorted both my user page and talk page, I am now finally in the 21st century, I just need a custom sig now.

I was originally wanted a Drone design on my user/talk pages but considering your pic is a marine, Toa's is an Alien, your Sig is an Alien and Toa's is blue (Marine), I think I will go for a predator design for my sig, red is the predator color, we will have a trinity then haha I just don't know how XD The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 17:35, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Well if you just want red text, that can be changed in your preferences and it'll show up whenever you hit the signature button, but if you want to include text effects like a different font or glow, or add an image (maybe a little tri-laser pointer, that could be cool), you'll have to do it as a template. It should be named Template:Signature/The Cruentus and put in the User signature templates category. Mine's in there if you wanted an example to look at, along with some others. Then you just type {{Signature/The Cruentus}} whenever you want to sign. Also, when you use it you'll need to follow it with five tildes, not the usual four — typing five gives you a timestamp without the usual signature. Took me a while to work that out :D
That probably makes it sound more complicated that it is :D But again, I don't mind helping out!--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:30, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Left overs Edit

Is there any left overs? --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 15:41, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Left overs?--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 15:42, February 13, 2015 (UTC)
From the person who thought he actually made a dent in the wiki with his vandalism. I got as much as I can, like to know if I got it all. --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 15:44, February 13, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, right. Yeah, we've fixed all of them, unless he made some edits anonymously before signing in.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 15:46, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Blomkamp's Alien filmEdit

Hey man how are you?

Pretty shocking news yesterday about Blomkamp's Alien movie huh? Was wondering what your thoughts were? Me I'm 100% all for it, as long as they DO NOT mess with Alien 3 or Resurrection.

I think he should finish Ripley 8's story and then for the following films use new and original characters. Kinda what they've done with the three Predator films, although new original returning protagonists for the Alien films wouldn't be bad.

By the way remember when Robert Morse was rumored to "Prometheus 2" on IMDB?

Also, Fire and Stone was pretty perfect, cannot express how much I loved it, again I recommend it! =)

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 11:52, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah! Starting to wonder if the concept art thing was just a clever ploy by Blomkamp to get the job :D
Very mixed feelings to be honest. On the one hand, District 9 is probably my favourite film from the last 10 years, I absolutely freaking adore that movie. It worked on so many levels. I also really liked Elysium, even though it seems most people didn't, so in that respect I'm pretty excited for a Blomkamp Alien film. On the other hand, I don't like the idea of it having Hicks in it, and to a lesser degree, Ripley. Hicks died, and there's really no sensible way to bring him back. That leaves either a stupid work-around (like Aliens: Colonial Marines *shudder*) or just retconning the third and fourth films out of the series. While Resurrection was arguably kinda naff, I'd be really upset if they retconned Alien3. For all it's faults, it had some really good things going for it and I like it a lot. Plus I'm not sure I want a 60 year-old Michael Biehn running around fighting Aliens, and I sure don't want to see the role recast.
As for Ripley, I'm with you on exploring Ripley 8 being the best thing they could do with her. The idea of a Ripley who isn't entirely human and therefore may not be entirely on our side could be fascinating if handled right. The difficulty with that is it would have to follow on from Resurrection, which is generally considered pretty weak, even by people (like me) who can enjoy it for what it is.
I do think the best thing they could do is go somewhere new. Some people have been suggesting a film based around Weyland-Yutani, and I think that could be a really good route to go down.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:07, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Quite honestly that's what I think it was all along on his part haha.

Yeah District 9 indeed was awesome, loved it as well, was just disappointed we never got a sequel or any other media installment in that franchise as far as I'm aware. I actually never watched Elysium, since it was released pretty close to a film which I had been waiting to see for many years Riddick which I absolutely loved, but now I should probably go and check it out. Exactly my thoughts man, same thing for Ellen and Newt which I hear some people want back, personally think that idea would be even worse than what Aliens: Colonial Marines did with Hicks. I completely agree with you there, while I'm not the biggest fan of Resurrection either, I would HATE the retconing of 3 and Resurection, I'll be honest I love Alien 3 even more the 'Assembly Cut' version. Also agree with your statement regarding Biehn, as much I think he's badass he'd be unnecessary in a new Alien film...and a recast...sounds terrifying! Lol.


Yeah that would a fascinating route for Ripley 8's story to take I'd love to see that. I agree but I also think it would be the best and smartest direction to go.

Yeah somewhere with new original characters. That would be awesome, I'd love a film to focus on Weyland-Yutani sounds awesome.

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 12:46, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Off topic, but Blomkamp has expressed interest in making a District 9 sequel, he just doesn't want to rush straight into it. To be honest, I quite like the film's open ending and wouldn't mind if it's just left as it is, but we might see a follow-up one day. As for Elysium, I think a lot of people condemned it just because it wasn't anything like as incredible as District 9. But taken for what it was it was really good fun. It didn't have the gravitas of District 9 and was more of a derivative action movie, but it was entertaining, and as you'd expect it looked amazing and had some awesome gritty sci-fi tech in it. Sharlto Copely (the main guy from District 9) was also really good as a slightly insane mercenary. I'd recommend watching it. Just don't expect a masterpiece.
I think I'm gonna have to wait to find out more about the new film before I can say how I really feel about it. Plus, I can remember getting really excited for Prometheus, which seemed to have everything going for it, but then I found that to be a huge disappointment.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 12:57, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Cool, yeah sounds logical not to rush it. The open end does indeed work, but personally I'd love another installment in that series! Yeah it often happens once a director creates a groundbreaking film and the subsequent films or sequels directed by the same director aren't in the same level of masterpiece as his previous work, although sometimes still great in other ways, as you're saying it's the case with Elysium. I'll admit I was definitely interested upon watching the trailer for the film as it seemed like an interesting story. Sharlto Copely is pretty awesome so I don't doubt his character was great. I will take your recommendation and check it out ASAP.

Yeah probably the best thing to do is await further details. Personally I loved Prometheus, didn't really have any huge issues with it and was quite pleased how they kept Giger's original design for the Space Jockey/Engineers versus the elephant creatures some people wanted from misinterpretations of the Pilot in Alien, although I do respect your views on it since I know not everyone liked it.

Another off-topic question are you interested at all in Blomkamp's Chappie? JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 13:57, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't think Prometheus was a bad film, I just found it incredibly frustrating. There were just a lot of silly little things that ruined it for me.
I honestly haven't really looked into CHAPPiE all that much, but I'm going to go see it when it comes out. The fact it's Blomkamp meant I was interested, but now that he's doing an Alien film I guess there's even more reason for me to check it out. I have a friend who also really likes Blomkamp's work, so I'm gonna go watch it with him.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 13:43, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough.

Yeah me neither but I agree all this new Alien film talk has indeed spiked my enthusiasm to watch more of his work. Yeah like I said I'm pretty sure I've only seen District 9 by Blomkamp, which like you I loved, so I will indeed check out his new movie. =)

JANN ELDERPREDATOR (talk) (Contribs) 13:57, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

That Selma guy definitely needed to go. Xerruy (talk) (Contribs) 18:50, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

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