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Leigh Burne

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I've become pretty heavily involved in this wiki of late, and I'm hoping I've helped to smarten things up and add more detail and better content to as many articles as possible.

The Official Stuff!Edit

Xenopedia policyEdit

Xenopedia has a few policies and guidelines that you should look at. The three most essential principles are NPOV, CC-BY-SA, and civility. What does this mean?

  • NPOV, or neutral point of view means that articles should not be biased, and should represent differing views on a subject fairly.
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  • Civility. Xenopedia works by cooperation, consensus, and therefore mutual respect, civility, and wikilove should be practiced universally. Please assume good faith when you disagree with someone, stay cool, and talk things over civilly. It is good practice to provide an edit summary explaining your changes so as to assist others with noticing and accepting your changes. If you find that your edits get removed or modified, wait a moment before reinstating them. First check the page history, your talk page, or the article's talk page to discuss. See also Wikiquette.
  • Style: Xenopedia articles should be written according to our Manual of Style. In particular, new editors should ensure that they write their articles in an "in-universe" perspective. Titles of works set in the Alien vs. Predator universe (such as movies, books and comics), alternative endings of games, non-canon and real world information should never be incorporated in the article itself. The articles present history as real. To add such commentary, use the Behind the scenes section of each article.
  • Sources: Where did you get your information? Cite the name of the movie, book, comic, game etc. you used as a source. If you're just starting out, don't worry about formatting, just list your source in parenthenses like this: (Alien). The AVP universe has a lot of dark corners; it's important for your fellow editors to be able to independently verify sources of information. Also, use only officially licensed media as a primary source for in-universe articles. Avoid information found on fansites, as this is often unverified and biased and may even constitute copyright infringement. If you must do this, name your source!

Wiki rulesEdit

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, is the largest and most successful wiki. This page lists some of the overarching guidelines that have helped make Wikipedia a success. You may like to consider them for this Wikia.

  1. BE BOLD! in updating pages. Go ahead, it's a wiki!
    Encourage others, including those who disagree with you, likewise to BE BOLD!
  2. Be civil to other users at all times.
  3. When in doubt, take it to the talk page. We have all the time in the world. Mutual respect is the guiding behavioural principle of Wikia and, although everyone knows that their writing may be edited mercilessly, it is easier to accept changes if the reasons for them are understood. If you discuss changes on the article's talk (or discussion) page before you make them, you should reach consensus faster and happier.
  4. Respect copyright. Wikia uses the GNU Free Documentation License. Everything you contribute must be compatible with that license.
  5. Decent edit summaries and clear and transparent explanations are universally appreciated. Other editors need to understand your process, and it also helps you yourself to understand what you did after a long leave of absence from an article. Please state what you changed and why. If the explanation is too long, add more on the discussion page.
  6. Assume good faith; in other words, try to consider that the person on the other end of the discussion is a thinking, rational being who is trying to positively contribute to the project — unless, and only unless, you have firm, solid, and objective proof to the contrary. Merely disagreeing with you is no such proof.
  7. Particularly, don't revert good faith edits. Reverting is too powerful sometimes. Don't succumb to the temptation, unless you're reverting very obvious vandalism (like "LALALALAL*&*@#@THIS_SUX0RZ", or someone changing "1+2=3" to "1+2=17"). If you really can't stand something, revert once, with an edit summary something like "(rv) I disagree strongly, I'll explain why in talk." and immediately take it to talk. Reverting information that is not cited or confirmed and is obviously speculation is allowed. Always put in the summary the reason of the revert.
  8. No personal attacks. Don't write that user such and so is an idiot, or insult him/her (even if (s)he is an idiot). Instead, explain what they did wrong, why it is wrong, and how to fix it. If possible, fix it yourself (but see above).
  9. Be graceful: Be liberal in what you accept, be conservative in what you do. Try to accommodate other people's quirks the best you can, but try to be as polite, solid, and straightforward as possible yourself.
  10. Sign your posts on talk pages using ~~~~, which gets replaced by your username and timestamp when you hit Save. But don't sign on mainspace articles.
  11. Use the preview button; it prevents edit conflicts.

Other rulesEdit

  • Respecting others: Treat others like the way you want to be treated and always respect their opinions, not everyone thinks the same way as you.
  • Edit pages not people: Though editing articles is acceptable and encouraged, editing the signed words of another editor on a talk page or other discussion page is generally not acceptable, as it can alter the meaning of the original comment and misrepresent the original editor's thoughts. Avoid editing another editor's comments unless necessary.
  • If someone disagrees with you, this does not necessarily mean that the person hates you, that the person thinks that you are stupid, that the person is stupid, or that the person is mean. When people post opinions without practical implications for the article, it is best to just leave them alone. What you think is not necessarily right or necessarily wrong—a common example of this is religion. Before you think about insulting someone's views, think about what would happen if they insulted yours. Remember that anything written on Wikipedia is kept permanently, even if it is not visible.
  • Do not edit war: This rule goes without saying but to those who don't know, it is recommended that members create a talk page instead of reverting or reinstating edits.

My Stuff!Edit

MeEdit

I'm born and bred in England, and I'm a student, so obviously I waste a whole load of my life watching films and drinking beer. I've always loved the Alien films, especially the first three, and the Predator films rock too, particularly the first, which is like an action movie rite-of-passage.

As far as my Alien and Predator knowledge goes, I'm mostly only familiar with the film series and the more recent video games (post-Predator: Concrete Jungle). I've also read the novelizations of all of the movies in the combined franchise (excluding Alien vs. Predator). My knowledge of the expanded universe comics and novels, however, is practically nil. But I'm doing my best to help out with whatever I can.

The Alien filmsEdit

I've always thought of the Alien film franchise as a fantastic trilogy with a much weaker fourth entry tagged on the end. I first saw them in a completely messed up order (I actually started with Alien3 when I was far too young to be watching a movie like that, then saw Alien Resurrection a few years later, then finally watched Alien and Aliens together when I was quite a bit older), and since then I've got into the Alien-related video games in a big way too.

  • Alien: Just about the only horror film that manages to genuinely scare me, and for that it gets my respect; I remember almost not being able to watch the scene in the ventilation ducts the first time I saw it. And of course it introduces one of the greatest, most iconic movie monsters ever, the Alien. I mean, before I'd even seen an Alien film, I knew about the Alien.
Hudson apeshit
"Die, motherf*cker!" Aliens rocks.
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  • Aliens: Not just my favourite film from the Alien series, but my favourite film of all-time. Everything about it — the characters, the creatures, the story, the sets and the setting — are damn-near perfect. I kinda wish they'd make more films about the USCM, even if they had nothing to do with Xenomorphs. Turning the original horror monster movie into an action war film was a stroke of genius on the part of sequel maestro James Cameron.
  • Alien3: This film probably gets more hate than any other entry in the franchise, but I love it. It's bleak, dark and depressing, and above all it didn't just try to copy Aliens, but mixed things up again. I love the characters (although, being English, I probably have a much easier time telling the inmates apart because they're all familiar faces to me!) and the quadruped Alien kicked off the whole traits-from-the-host concept that is so much a part of the Alien creature today.
  • Alien Resurrection: This one's not so great, and certainly nowhere near as good as the first three, but I admit I still enjoy it for what it is. Some of the characters are good fun (especially Ron Perlman) and it's got one or two genuinely great moments (like the underwater attack and the clone room scene), but overall the film's just a little too silly to measure up to what came before.

The Predator filmsEdit

As an even bigger fan of Arnie's madcap action movies than I am of either of the extraterrestrial species this wiki is based on, I've loved Predator for as long as I can remember. I didn't see Predator 2 until much later, and obviously Predators only came out recently. At least I watched them in order this time!

  • Predator: You're not a true action movie fan unless you've seen this. One of the all-time classic action flicks, this movie is so manly it'll put hair on a two year-old's chest. I've always considered the shootout near the beginning to be one of the most awesome ever put on film, and of course there's Stan Winston's (RIP) wonderful creature effects. I always forget quite how much there is left of the film once it's been whittled down to just Arnie...
  • Predator 2: By no means as good as the first, but still a great action film and of course we get a whole load of awesome new Predator weaponry on display. The cast is good, the final battle is pretty epic (it goes on for like twenty minutes) and I really like the city setting. I just wish they'd release the uncut version one day.
  • Predators: I didn't like this so much the first time I saw it, but it's grown on me since. I still think Adrien Brody was completely miscast as the action hero lead, but even so he does a surprisingly good job with the part. Some of the references to the first film are a little heavy-handed, but on the whole it's a fun film.

The other filmsEdit

Eugh, those God-awful AVP films...

  • Alien vs. Predator: I liked the concept of this, but it was ruined by its child-friendly tone, boring characters, terrible dialogue and a silly last act where a woman ties bits of an Alien to herself and fights alongside a Predator, despite having zero combat training. There's also the fact that they set it several hundred years before mankind supposedly first encountered the Alien, thus crating a huge plot contradiction that didn't need to exist.
  • Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem: Oh how a once great franchise has fallen. This was REALLY bad. There's literally nothing good to redeem this film. They amped up the violence to stupid (actually, sickening) levels, but it was still a kid's movie in every other way. Absolutely awful. I hope I never see it again.
  • Prometheus: I had high hopes for this, but sadly I found it to be a massive disappointment. The set up and first act were great, but then it just sort of fell apart. It was trying to be such a clever film from the start, but then you have elite scientists just wandering off alone to get killed and silly, illogical plot twists for the sake of plot twists, and it felt like such a let-down.

The gamesEdit

Fortunately, many of the games based on the series are great, better than some of the films even. I'm hoping the rumours of a new AVP video game in the near future turn out to be true.

  • Aliens versus Predator: I only got this quite recently, courtesy of it's re-release on Steam. Obviously it's dated as hell, the graphics are borderline-terrible now, and there's practically zero plot, but it's actually really scary in a particularly frantic way. The Xenos just swarm all over you and are tough to hit, and if they get close they'll rip you to pieces in short order. Oh, and the Queen puts other video game versions of the big boss to shame — she will destroy you in seconds if you give her the chance. Good fun.
  • Predator: Concrete Jungle: The controls in this game were kind of ass, but other than that it was brilliant. It took a little while for the story to get going, but once you really got into it the plot was great, and you get to use all the Predator gear from the films and plenty more besides. Name one other game where you can leave skinned Jamaican gang bangers hanging from billboards.
  • Aliens vs. Predator: This had its flaws, but overall I loved it. The Marine campaign was scary, and the Predator's trophy kills were so horrific they were hilarious. The singleplayer reused the same levels too many times though, it felt kinda cheap. It was also let down by a mediocre Alien campaign and some of the most atrocious multiplayer matchmaking I've ever come across — doubly frustrating because the multiplayer was actually awesome once you finally got into a match.
  • Aliens: Colonial Marines: I sometimes feel this gets more hate than it deserves, because I found quite a bit to like in it, taken for what it is. Still, it doesn't change the fact that it's not at all what we were promised. The graphics are unacceptably bad after what we were shown in advance, the story is appalling and the gameplay really isn't all that great... so yeah, it's a big disappointment. The Stasis Interrupted add-on was better, but still nowhere near as great as this game could (and should) have been.

My contributionsEdit

User contributions: My contributions, and they are legion.

The Stuff I OwnEdit

These are the various bits and pieces of Alien/Predator media I currently own.

Earned BarnstarsEdit

Original Barnstar The Original Barnstar
For large amounts of quality edits. The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 19:29, August 2, 2013 (UTC)


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For large amounts of quality edits. The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 19:29, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

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