Hi. Which 20th Century Fox movies show this flag? I saw different flag in Komando. Thanks for answer. --Zipacna1 (talk) (Contribs) 09:35, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, that flag image was on here when I joined the wiki. I don't remember seeing a flag in Commando, which scene was it in?--Leigh Burne (talk) (Contribs) 09:08, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Val Verde-verse?

Considering that Val Verde (a fictional country) has also appeared in Commando, Supercarrier, Adventure Inc., and Die Hard 2, does this mean that those series are set in the same universe as Predator, and by extension, Alien? There's actually an article on Forbes that discusses this: Jykale (talk) (Contribs) 16:22, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

No, its just a commonly used name to describe an area in south america in movies, likely to avoid offending people as a lot of folk get offended when a film portrays their country in what they believe to be a negative depiction, so hollywood made up a fictional one. Anyway, its retconned by Predators when Isabelle says a different location for the events of Predator. --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 16:48, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Isabelle claimed it happened in Guatemala. However, the article states that the team was debriefed in Guatemala before being sent into Val Verde. Either Isabelle got the names mixed up (after all, she's from a completely different part of the world), or the events happened on the Val Verde-Guatemala border. Besides, "Val Verde" isn't as widely-used as you'd think. Only a handful of movies and TV shows have ever referenced it, most of them share some of the same cast/crew, and none of them seem to flat-out contradict each other. It could be possible that they all share a universe, even if they don't really overlap. Jykale (talk) (Contribs) 17:58, August 12, 2016 (UTC)
Actually there would be a contradiction, Arnie. Anyway just because Val verde exists in multiple films, it doesn't mean they are connected. Lots of the same locations have appeared in mulitple films before without anyone saying there is a shared universe. 18:51, August 12, 2016 (UTC)
The difference is that Val Verde is a fictional country. This isn't like "Oh, Predator 2 is set in the real-life city of Los Angeles, and there are lots of films set there. Big deal." But Val Verde is an entire country that doesn't exist in real life; it was made up by someone. How often do completely unrelated works use the same fictional country? Usually, there'd be trademarks or copyright laws involved to stop just anyone from using Val Verde. As for "Arnie", there are a number of explanations for why Arnold Schwarzenegger has played two characters in the same universe. Maybe Matrix and Dutch are Long-lost twins, or one is a pseudonym for the other, or they're just identical strangers. Ever heard of "The Prince and the Pauper"? Jykale (talk) (Contribs) 19:55, August 12, 2016 (UTC)
Henriksen has also played several characters in the AVP universe :) But regardless, I personally think it's a bit of a stretch to say Commando takes place in the same universe as Alien. Tonally, many of the films that use the nation are completely different (Commando is an action comedy, nothing like the serious portrayal of things in Alien, for example). I only added details from other film appearances of the nation to this page as something of an inside joke.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 11:12, August 17, 2016 (UTC)
I've heard that "Oh, but the two series have different tones" argument before, and it really doesn't disprove anything. Ultima and Wing Commander are videos games in completely different genres (fantasy RPG and sci-fi flight simulator, respectively), but they share a universe. Commander Keen is a light-hearted sidescroller that shares a universe with Wolfenstein and Doom, which are both first-person shooters known for their graphic violence. Jykale (talk) (Contribs) 23:08, November 23, 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but they're all confirmed as being intrinsically linked. Alien and Commando aren't. Your saying they are is just fabricating a connection where there is none. Weyland-Yutani is mentioned in the TV show V, so is that going to be a part of the franchise too? Of course not.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:09, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
Except that V wasn't made by any of the people involved in Commando, Predator, etc. But Joel Silver produced Die Hard 2, Commando, and Predator. All three of those movies feature Val Verde. Val Verde is a fictional location, so that means it would have to be very deliberate for this one location to appear in each movie. The (fictional) nation of Val Verde was introduced in Commando. Val Verde was also in Die Hard 2 and Predator. Joel Silver worked on all three films. Then came the Alien Vs. Predator crossover series. That's how Commando and Alien share a universe. Jykale (talk) (Contribs) 21:59, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Angel mentions weyland-yutani and Joss Whedon made that show, he was involved in Alien: Resurrection, yet they are not connected. There is no shared universe between Commando and AVP. Val verde is simply used as a country in south america without risking offence to those to a real country. Its like Alan Smithee, a name used by multple directors as a sign of disownment, its nothing but a shared title. --PredTriLaser The Cruentus(Talk) 01:39, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
A shared title that has only been used by a select number of people in works that are all connected by some of those same people working on all of them. It's always either Joel Silver or Stephen E. de Souza that uses Val Verde, and both of them worked on Commando. Jykale (talk) (Contribs) 21:29, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Pulp Fiction and From Dusk Till Dawn both feature Big Kahuna Burgers and were both written by Tarantino, that doesn't mean vampires exist in the same universe as all those Pulp Fiction guys.--Buck-ark LEIGH BURNE(Talk) 09:44, December 21, 2016 (UTC)