The comic pic is not a BSP. It is Predator#3
The Dog Handler/Flusher is identified as "The Tracker" by Sideshow Collectibles who are officially licensed by 20th Century Fox to make Predators maquettes and other cool stuff, plus Carey Jones is listed as the 'Tracker Predator' on imdB. Brian Steele is credited as the Berserker Predator, so is the toy and the Sideshow Collectibles version. The Falconer is the same. According to SciFiScoop.com, the three of them are collectively known in the script as 'Super Predators', only one was known as 'Black Super Predator' (guess who?) and that's how he got the onset nickname 'Mr.Black'. If it turns out I'm way off base on this, I'll be the first to change it. ----CadmiumX99 04:54, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
Super Black Predators Vs Jungle Hunters
You here thinks that it would be cool to see the SBPs vs Jugle hunters. I think that would make a vary good prequal comic
Yes it would. I would buy that comic, because who wouldn't want to see the Super Pradators fight the little Jugle hunters
Aculley thats not true if the Super Predators kicked the normal Predators ass so easly then how come this war has gone on for over 30 years also Jungle Hunters can hold there own against the Super Predators the only diffrence between the two is is that the Super Predators are much stronger and faster and have a bit diffrent weaponry not much diffrence and its not like MR Black Creamed Crucified Predator but it was ent much chalenge but anyways. The Crucified Predator was very inexperinced and young wall Berserker was;ent a Elite Predator he was fairly experinced and the better dulesman.Tomahawk23 (talk) (Contribs) 00:04, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
i doubt there is much of a strength difference between them, they are not bigger either as the crucified jungle hunter was played by a shorter actor than the original. i doubt crucified was inexperiencedb(but it is possible) he lost because he was wounded and severly weak from torture etc as seen when royce cuts him down, he just splast to the floor without catching himself. the difference between them is not strength or speed as they are more or less the same as it depends on the individual predator (like humans) but in technology, ethnics and methods. jungle tribe and city tribe were honorable, berserker's group wasn't...not even falconer as he was merely toying with hanzo. The tech on the berserker's group is more advanced, thus given them an unfair advantage and not making the hunt a challenge, and they also kidnap humans so they have no home field advantage. so to me, the berserker's group was weak and cowardly, The fight between crucified and berserker is an example, berserker cheats by using his advanced plasma caster, while the other predator fought honorably despite his weakened state....so my verdict, originals will kick the newbie's ass even though they do put on a good show. Mr.Scryer. (talk) (Contribs) 13:07, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
The problem with the theorie of Crucified not being inexperinced is that its been made clear that all these ones in here are young and that the 3 super predators were the youngest predators to ever kill a xeno and crucified looks younger and its kinda hinted that he was unblooded and inexperinced. but ither way its very true that part of the reason he lost was cause of the torture but even if he was ent captured i still think bereserker wouled of won i think he was a more skilled stronger and more experinced fighter. As for the origanal kicking the new ones ass i think that depends on wich Predator there fighting like in my opinion Wolf wouled beat Berserker Falconer or Tracker. City Hunter or Jungle Hunter wouled beat Falconer unless they were duleing Falconer Tracker or Berseker wouled beat Chooper Celtic or Scar this is just my opinion for reasons that i wont explain unless we get into a further dusscussion about this. Also i think that it being unfair if one Yautja uses a plasma caster and the other does ent i think its aculley fair cause Crucifed was able to avoid Berseker shots and get close enough to him to dule so i dont really think its that big of a deal in winning in a Yautja on Yautja fight. Although it is true that Berserker used the plasma caster i dont think it makes them cowards i think its more of a matter of them being unhornerble fighters and each just wanted to kill the other they each had a diffrent theorie on combat and the way to fight in it and in Berserkers theorie its to be unhornerble and use the caster and the reason they kidnap for the homefront advantage is int cause there scarde its that it produces more fear and confusein into your prey and Yautjas love fear in there prey so i dont think there cowards.Tomahawk23 (talk) (Contribs) 17:30, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
i partly agree with you but predators is part of the predator franchise only, it was made clear by the makers they were avoiding the avp cross- franchise, so xenos don't exist in this, so berserker never killed a xeno and its not said anywhere in the film that they all young or that he killed a xeno, if it come from a comic then it must be non-canon unless said by fox that it is the OFFICIAL sequel/prequel part of continuity to the film, they are predators at war with another tribe and they are not really stronger, no where in the film does it show a SB predator physically over-power a HEALTHY jungle tribe predator. i still believe that berserker was cowardly, i mean crucified was weakened, wounded and probably starved, i think using the plasma caster was over-kill and desperation. kidnapping humans takes the challenge away as they have no home field advantage, wolf, scar and the others from avp doesn't count as they are from avp, a cross franchise. jungle and city tribe took on dangerous humans in their own enviroment with potential more than one or two weapons, they didn't cheat with a metal falcone-thingy either. Jungle tribe kicked arnie's arse and dutch only got like one or two hits on JT predator and harrigan barely managed to defend himself against a one armed CT predator and was wounded by him but royce battered berserker left and right and he only lost the upper hand because berserker once again used his plasma caster Mr.Scryer. (talk) (Contribs) 18:32, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you on some of that but aculley it says right on the Bersekrer biography on the neca figures that he s a young blood as does it on the Falconer and Tracker biographys so they each killed a xeno and if you are trying to say that Wolf and the ones from AVP arent canon and that the franchises metting is int canon thats a matter of opinion but what proves it that the AVP movies and the predators from the AVP movies are canon is that in Predator 2 when Harrigan goes on the ship he sees a alien skull so threres the proof that AVPR and AVP are canon even though they both sucked and theres nothing in those movies that means something in the franchise did int happen so they are canon.Tomahawk23 (talk) (Contribs) 18:57, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
the skull was just a easter egg or tease and not the first sign of avp, i think there was a comic about it before predator 2. Neca makes toys and they mess biographies up a lot just like they did with terminator salvation, what they say is not canon. anyway this is not about status. I don't count avp predators in it as predators 2010 tried to avoid avp. basically its ignoring the events of avp 1 and 2, so the predators in there don't count in verses because they are not jungle tribe, and yes i know city hunter ain't either, i was just comparing the honourable predators to the berserker ones. right back to point, i believe jungle tribe can and would kill super predators but as i said, it depends on that yautja, as one of either tribe could easily kill each other but the battle between crucified and berserker was unfair. Mr.Scryer. (talk) (Contribs) 19:06, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
I agree that the origanal predator wouled beat the SP but as you said depending on wich Yautja is fighting wich and although neca screws up the biographys im pretty sure they haveta aprove it with someone in the Predators movie and if they say its fine that they put that i ghess i gota say i belive that it happend canonly and although there were already AVP comics before Predator 2 between the comics movies video games and novels i think the franchises are pretty much one but if you dont count AVP preds thats your opinion but anyways at the matter at hand i agree that depending the wich Yautja is fighting wich i think id say the mainstrem predator wouled win depending on the clan I think the SP wouled beat the Jungle Hunter clan but not the Elite clan that i think we disagree onTomahawk23 (talk) (Contribs) 19:14, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
agreed, it all depends on the individuals, like humans really. but remember, the battle between crucified and berserker is not a good example.thank you for respecting my opinions, i veiw it like some comic artist's do, "worlds" aliens franchise is earth 1, predators earth 2 and avp earth 3 that way i can think that the individual franchise survived the avp bomb lol anyway good talk, i'll be back later to talk more on this as i believe, there was a comic about a fight between two tribes as well.Mr.Scryer. (talk) (Contribs) 19:24, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
No there was no comic fight i think i have all the comics with the SP unless they made new ones and yes crucified vs bersekrer was not a good example since crucified was most likely starveing temperarly disabled and recently torturedTomahawk23 (talk) (Contribs) 20:34, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
now i remember, the comic was called avp three world war and while it may not have had super predators, it did have dishonourable predators who used aliens as bio weapons, humans team up against another predator tribe to fight them, it had nothing to do with the film predators though. Mr Scryer. 18.104.22.168 02:02, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
So check out this link to AvP Galaxy. It says that 'Super Predators' is a term made up by the fans based on an early version of the script that was leaked. The crew referred to the Falconer, Tracker, and 'Mr.Black' (listed in the credits as 'Berserker') as 'Berserker Predators'. I would really like to use the in-universe term, whatever it is. Any more info revealed on the Blu-Ray?---CadmiumX99 17:10, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
Like the difference between dogs and wolves...
Hey BleedingEffect, I do believe you are correct. As a wolf is bigger and stronger than a dog, so are the Super Predators bigger and stronger than the Mainstream Predators. J1138776948 (talk) (Contribs) 15:31, April 30, 2011 (UTC) J1138776948
Hi, I would say you are correct as well, another way to describe the difference would be a homo sapian vs a homo neanderthalensis, the first being us, as we are a more delicate form of human compared to the neanderthal, which was larger with thicker bones ect. 22.214.171.124 23:05, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
How are they super?
Just a question for the bigger fans out there who might know the answer.
How are the Predators featured in the latest film Predators "super"?
Despite references made afterwards they, at best, appear to be the same size as the regular Predators. They rely on their technology to beat the humans rather than use the "level playing field" mentality of previous Predators and the strongest "Super" Predator barely beats a "regular" Predator who has been chained up and tortured in a fist fight.
If they are "super" then when do they show that? Is there a newer comic series that shows these Predators doing something "super" because in the film everything they do shows them to be inferior to the well known Predators of the previous films.
126.96.36.199 11:30, August 13, 2011 (UTC) Chazz
you are correct, there is nothing super about them, besides being barely able to beat a very weakened crucified predator, the so called super predators got thrashed by humans more so than any other. Dutch who was far stronger than royce only got three hits onto the jungle hunter and harrigan barely managed to parry the city hunter who had just one-arm and was severly wounded by him, royce however, brutally beat the berserker predator.
billy challenged the jungle hunter and was killed in seconds, hanzo not only lasted against the so called super predator but managed to beat him albiet at the cost of his life they are just another race of yautja or perhaps bad bloods because their methods are dishonorable, they kidnap humans to take different planet (taking away a humans home field advantage) and use more advanced technology (which is kind of cheating in a hunt) and they attacked unarmed humans in the back. classic preds are still number 1 but i like the fact there is different races of yautja.188.8.131.52 00:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
Super Predators are;nt all Bad Bloods some are they are ither another Race or Breed of Yautja and its possible that not all Super Predators are dishornerble fighters it may just be this one clan and this one clan couled be Bad Bloods on the other hand it couled be the hole Super Predator culture but i doubt that a hole Race of Yautja wouled be unhorble fighters. also Falconer duled Hanzo in hornerble combat wather then killing him wall clocked.
- Saying that all "Super Predators" are like this . . . is kinda racist. It is clear there is racial problems and schisms amongst the Yautja and we shouldnt contribute to it by making false assertions about an entire Yautja race . . . though we cant deny the fact that the "super predators" are a group, that are composed entirely of members from this yautja race. ralok (talk) (Contribs) 22:39, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
super predator blood feud
it is stated in the super predator page that the beguining of the blood feud is unknowen but in the page night storm(neca figure) he started the war as it says in the paragraph below
Over 4,000 years prior to 2013, before the ancient feud between the Yautja and the Super Predators, Nightstorm accompanied one of the first Yautja Xenomorph Hunts to Egypt. However, he did not approve of the Yautja code of honor, feeling it gave too much power and significance to the prey they hunted. Thus the feud between the tribes began and Nightstorm's legend soon grew amongst his kind, eventually leading him to Elder status. He set out to unite the rest of the Super Predator tribe, ruthlessly hunting nothing less than the noble Yautja warrior
if this predator is considered canon this is the reason for the war but if we see this predator as non canon like big red (batman dead end) ill shut my mouth. but ether way untill proven wrong this is the only lead so should be stated atleast untill another reason is given
my other issue is that it states that the super predators are like the bad blood killer clan (aliens vs predator 3 world war comic) in the way they have learnt to use xenomorphs as weapons, this in no doubt is true but to anyone who hasnt played avp evolution would not get this reference i shall post in the article this"(as seen in aliens vs predator evolution)" if you dont mind