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Ravagers and QueensEdit

In response to the query about the Alien Queen from the 2010 AvP game, it is possible that the reason the old Queen is so scarred is because it was formerly a Ravager that survived being attacked by it's fellow xenomorphs while becoming a queen.--Zervziel 03:17, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


i'm a unregistered user here,i have to say the the ravager is considered non-canon and in the game avp extinction,its a stage that the praetorian becomes when there is already a queen.a ravager cannot become a queen.

Ok, I'll bite, then why on the Ravager page does it say they can? And if the Ravager is in a published source such as a game, how is it non-canon?--Zervziel 22:30, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

a queen is a queen no matter what humans/androids call it,so if someone calls is an empress or matriach,it doesn't mean that its a different creature,it has been stated by rebellion that the discolouration is from being locked away for so long (10,000 to 100,000 years) and of course a queen might have battle scars,probably from fighting the yautja when they captured her.

Well i read on the alien species wiki that an empress is a queen that fought with others and which ever queen wins becomes a stronger empress. Also matriarch is not anything different. It means "mother leader".SPARTAN-III leader 20:46, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


just because a The ravager page says it can doesn't mean it can do it,this is a wiki with a lot of non-canonical castes with user altering the info to what THEY think it is.The ravager along with the carrier is not canon,it doesn't matter if its a game or a comic.

I'm more inclined to believed a published source than to believe an anonymous one. Considering that the games, comics, and the movies make up the continuity, I'm more likely gonna support what they say as they are what keep the franchise going. Plus they need to expand the material to keep it interesting.--Zervziel 04:17, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

are xenomorphs male os female

Problem with Page Title Grammar Edit

Well, all Species names begin with a Capital Letter. I have a Problem with "Queen (xenomorph)" Can we change it to "Queen (Xenomorph)"? I believe we didn't call the Xenomorph page "xenomorph". Thanks, Necromorph-X (talk) (blog) 12:37, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Not necessarily. If you're describing a group of beings by country/ planet of origin, that's definitely capitalized: "Earthling/ Terran", "Vulcan", "Martian", "American", "Aztec". Or when using a proper name like "Colonial Marines", "Predator" and "Hunter". Is "Xenomorph" considered a proper name for the species? It's not capped in the Aliens novelization or Aliens vs. Predator: Prey. (For that matter, neither are the words yautja, oomans, humans, dog, rhynth, briar wolves, drone or queen capitalized in the book.) Might be worth a debate or vote...----CadmiumX99 05:55, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

The Predalien is MaleEdit

Check the official commentary. This is why It was going after females ONLY and not males. A normal queen wouldn't care what it's prey was but apparently the Predalien did.


That's rather odd, and sounds kind stupid seeing as they also referred to the Predalien as a young queen (didn't they?) but AVP:R was backwards in many ways so this surprises me only in the slightest. It's really stupid, though, because I myself am certain that the Predalien in the movie was supposed to be a young queen or something, so one would think it would be female. Turns out they refer to it as a male. I'm so confused right now... In any case, I hated the Predalien in that movie. This adds one more reason for me not to like it. Frostbite249 (talk) (Contribs) 08:54, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Baby queen vs. baby daddyEdit

OK let's get this part straight: It was pregnant women; the Predalien we see in AVPR was implanting embryos into pregnant women (Carrie the waitress, all the patients in the Maternity Ward...) Why? Well, here's how one of the directors of AVPR explained it:
"Basically the Predalien's kind of a baby queen-there's a phase in between warrior alien and full-blown queen...they do this thing with embryo implantation.. the idea with that was; how does a baby queen quickly form her own little mini-drone army to get the hive built before she evolves into the final state where she can't completetely defend herself?"--Colin Strause (Brothers Strause "AVP-R: Preparing For War: Development and Production" featurette, Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem)
Personally, I thought the Queen did a fine job defending herself in Aliens. So, apparently, young queens come equipped with a 'starter set' of embryonic 'bursters and just need a spare womb for the kids to grow up in. Then what's the point of eggs and facehuggers when you can just shove some embryos down some mommy's throat? Can all young queens do this or just the ones that also happen to be Predaliens? Ask Shane Salerno, the scriptwriter. It was his idea. Nice work, Shane :p.
Do the Strauses refer to the Predalien as a "he" in the commentary? Sure; probably because they nicknamed the monster "Chet" after the evil big brother played by Bill Paxton in Weird Science. So what? Just because the Predalien's a serial face rapist doesn't make it male, it just makes it a xenomorph.
The other 'male' aliens everyone's so keen on bringing up? One is a toy made by Kenner, and the aliens in Aliens: Rogue and Aliens: Labyrinth have been experimented on. The sickest, coolest part of Labyrinth is in the form of a flashback told by a crazy dude, and exactly how the human female host gets 'knocked up' isn't fully explained.
On the other hand, is a xenomorph a female just because it's referred to as "she" or "queen"? Just because the Aliens are referred to as "bugs" and appear to have some things in common with insect life, does that make them insects? Nope. IMO, the 'Gender' entry for all xenomorphs could read something like "undetermined, referred to as 's(he)'". Referring to them informally as he's and she's is cool, but it's just not accurate enough for the main body of the article. That's my two cents. Thanks----CadmiumX99 (talk) (Contribs) 19:17, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

This is something ive always wonderd. Besides being able to lay eggs and the ectra set of arms. What is the difference between the Queen and the Praetorian? Apperence wise i mean.

Praetorians are "Princesses" or juvenile Queens.

I think. TroopDude (talk) (Contribs) 13:13, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Depends on the game, AVP:E and AVP 2010 have the praetorian as a young queen, AVP 2 says warriors become the royal guards. The Film AVPR has a predalien that could arguably be a praetorian. Appearance wise, they are nearly identical but some praetorians lack the extra arms and others have a different design on the crest. The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 23:25, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

RenameEdit

I am considering renaming this page Queen (Rank), as Queens are a Xenomorph rank, not a species. If anyone disagrees or has something to say about this, please say. TroopDude (talk) (Contribs) 14:57, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I sort of agree because yes, they are all one species, so "caste" or something would be good due to their insect-like nature. You could even just say queen (xenomorph) as while queen (acheron) tells of an individual queen, the former is about a queen of the species in general. The Cruentus (talk) (Contribs) 17:37, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

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