Anyone have any pictures of the praetorian from the 2010 game to help update the page?--Zervziel 22:41, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
AVP Requiem's hero xeno
Not the traditional meaning of hero but it is a film term that is sometimes used in monster movies to specify which creature they focus on. I refer to the Predalien. I've seen it called a generic predalien as well as a queen and now a praetorian. Which is it? If it can impregnate humans that makes me think it's an immature queen. We need to make up our minds as well as start locking down things so people can't just spontaneously change things around without checking first.--Zervziel 17:35, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
XenoFan 19:05, April 4, 2010 (UTC): I can't see were is the mistake, it's indeed a young Queen it can impregnate people for god's sake, and also a Praetorian, Praetorian's are young Queen's that are pheromone supressed by the established Queen, so that there is no fight for dominance. understood?
- Not really. What established queen is suppressing the PredAlien queen's pheromones? If there's not then it's not a Praetorian, but just an immature queen that has yet to mature. --Zervziel 20:22, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
It's still a Praetorian since it's a queen wich has yet to develop an egg sack.--XenoFan 15:39, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- So you're saying that the Praetorian stage is a just a stage in a queen's life cycle rather than a separate caste all together? I really don't buy that. Especially since growing an eggsack isn't what makes it a queen. If anything the Praetorian seems to be a transitory stage in which a xeno can become either a queen, a carrier, or a ravager depending on what is needed at the time. If there's already a queen and they're not in a battle against some other race the last two aren't needed so they could just end up staying as a praetorian. --Zervziel 22:49, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yup,they're just a queen's life cycle, are you saying that the chiuaha sized chestburster just pops into a t-rex sized queen out of nowhere? Carrier and Ravager are just so non-cannon, i'm not saiying they're not a nice inclusion to the alien universe but i would not put them molting from a Praetorian since itis already an elit unit it doesn't need much improvements. It's just stuppid, Praetorian lost all of it's mighty turning into one of those two.--XenoFan 23:00, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- I think the AvP 2010 made pretty clear what the preatorian is. --BernardWolf (talk) 23:02, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- AVP 2010 would be even shorter if they didn't turn the warrior into a queen, what's wrong with you people what is between the queen chestburster and the adult queen? a Giant chicken?--XenoFan 23:06, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- I think that a warrior would eventually turn into a preatorian to defend the Queen and if the Queen dies,it would turn into the new one.
In the AvP 2010,that's what happen,plus,6 had some weird connection thing with the Queen,so,maybe then Queens choose who will be next and they turn into a new preatorian faster...or I dunno. --BernardWolf (talk) 23:09, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
There's also the possibility that a warrior in extreme conditions could turn into a praetorian but then...why the hell there are queen chestbursters if any xenomorph can turn into a queen?why didn't all of them turn into friggin 9ft armored guards?--XenoFan 23:18, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Well,maybe they just live an alternated live cycle.Like chestburster to Queen,but then,they must go through a "teenager" phase that would be/look like the preatorian . --BernardWolf (talk) 23:26, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- You can finaly get my point. I think if there is anything like a "super warrior" it wouldbe those things guarding the Queen mother. They still have the crested head but without the secondary pair of arms that is like a trademark of the queen,read my post on the theorys maybe you like it--XenoFan 23:32, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Yea I know,and I will ^^ --BernardWolf (talk) 23:46, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
Some dude question
y did the queen kill the predator and not notice there was a queen inside cus in alien 3 the dog alien sees the alien queen inside ripley and doesnt kill her in order for its survival but then again in avp it was the queen and would kill its enemy and sacrafice another (what ever it was) to kill its enemy in order for its survival
There are two possible answers here. Either A, she could sense that the chestbuster was far enough in its development that it no longer needed a living host (as shown a few minutes later when the chestbuster popped out of the Predator while he was dead.) or B, she just didn't care. She was pissed they killed her hive, pissed that the Predator had injured her, and because she was a queen, she could simply lay more eggs. Also if you notice, she does not puncture his chest with her tail, just his stomach, so she probably knew about the chestbuster, and knew it could survive. Lightning418 00:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
Please use better Grammar and sign your posts. But the Queen, as Lightning418 said, was pissed off. Her Hive had been destroyed, her warriors killed. We don't know the kind of pain and tornment teh Queen went through lying those Eggs. Giving birth ain't easy and painless, especially if you're hooked to a maxhine eletrocuting you. Necromorph-X 17:33, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
Praetorian vs. juvenile Queen
- "Praetorians are Warrior Aliens that have evolved and formed a close bond with their Queen. If a Queen dies, a Praetorian may evolve further to replace her. Praetorians display the family crest as a head, which is practically invulnerable to projectiles. If you come face-to face with one, avoid engaging it with melee tactics.
- Like the Queen, they are known to summon other Aliens as reinforcements-their signature scream denotes this behavior. Some reports detail cases of Praetorians evolving from Jungle Aliens and retaining the ability to spit acid projectiles. Avoid the Praetorian at all costs, unless you have plenty of ammunition at your disposal.”
BTW, this strategy guide is an officially licensed 20th Century Fox product by Brady Games. It's written by Tim Bogenn, and they thank many of the personnel at SEGA and Rebellion, so I think it's fair to say that it's a reliable source and not just fan speculation.
So according to this, Praetorians are not juvenile Queens, but 'evolved Warriors' that may 'evolve further' to take the Queen's place. How much further? Possibly to a juvenile Queen stage capable of implanting bellybursters to help "jumpstart" the Hive (per AVPR's Predalien). Once the Hive is secure, the juvenile Queen evolves into a full blown Queen, laying eggs assembly-line style. (This could also explain Queen facehuggers and Queen chestbursters as products of a secure, established Hive, marked as 'royalty' from birth.)
There's also the deleted scene in Alien in which Ripley comes across Dallas and the others being transformed into new eggs, suggesting that the Queen might be a type of "egg-laying variant" that appears only when a Hive is established. This might be worth noting with the upcoming Untitled Alien prequel.---CadmiumX99 16:20, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
Well if any body recalls a praetorian is like a young queen. It is seen in most games and in my opinion is more so ture than any other thing, as the xenomorph warriors come and aid it in battles.
"Echelon" as an other name?
The word Echelon refers to a level or rank in an organization, profession, or society, therefore simply using it as another name for the Praetorian would be incorrect. The Elite Predator calls it the "higher echelon of its brood" when referring to it.
The word praetorian came from the roman word praetorian. A roman Praetor is a judicial, a praetorian is a royal army of about 1,000 that Emperor Augustus (who is a roman ruler) used as bodguards. Just to let you know. Zharksman (talk) (Contribs) 03:01, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
runner theory drone warrior praetorion=cruhser
I have an idea you the runner from alien three well that alien is a drone because queen facehugger can carry 2 embryos one drone one queen and that there is a runner warrior and it can molt into a praetorion this might be the crusher a runner praetorion It is canon because of the gorillapraetorion from aliens infestation Praetorionmaster97184.108.40.206 17:47, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
also take note that the praetorion from avp 2010 in the marine and pred campian will somtimes attempt to ram you with its head220.127.116.11 17:49, November 11, 2012 (UTC)pr97
I'm sick of some people saying that a Praetorian is the same as a queen, so I've listed the differences.The differences between Queens and Praetorians are:
the crest; the skull of a Praetorian starts similar to a warrior or drone skull before extending into the crest
arms; the Queen has four arms, Praetorian has two
size; the Queen's size is aroud five metres, a Praetorian is around four metres
- It might be worth adding something about that to the article, I'll see about doing it.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 07:56, August 14, 2014 (UTC)
- It probably doesn't help that when Praetorians appear in the games, you're usually too preoccupied with not getting killed to take a good long look at them. At a glance they do look similar to Queens.--Leigh Burne (Talk) (Contribs) 07:42, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
Originating Material regarding Praetorians
I edited this earlier, it got took out possibly because my computer crapped out and I couldn't update to say why I'd made the changes.
The Praetorian and it's concept originated in the 1990 comic series Aliens: Earth War, in which their appearence was more like a stronger version of the normal caste of creatures, though it had something more like mandibles or spines on either side of their head, and a head that tapered into more of a point at the rear. They were employed as elite bodyguards to the queen's main nesting mound, and their strength was greater than that of the the normal creatures, demonstrated when they ripped apart the specially modified cargo loaders the marines took in to combat. The image showing the front cover shows these differences.
The creatues appeared again briefly in the comic series Hive and Genocide, in both instances again being portrayed as protectors of the hive and taking on this similar appearence with these tusks. [All information taken from Dark Horse comics]
The creature first appeared in a computer game in the 1994 Capcom arcade game of Aliens vs Predators, a side-scrolling beat-em-up in a similar vein to Streets of Rage, in which the protagonists (a choice of 2 humans or predators could be played) fought through an alien infestation. The Elite Guard features mainly as mid-level bosses, often preceeding encounters with the queen. While this appearence no longer has the spines depicted in the comic, its head does show some vague similarities to that of a Queen, and its dorsal spines also appear more tapered as in its later incarnations in other media. In the game, this creature had the ability to often excrete acid around itself, causing difficulties when moving in for close combat. [Aliens vs Predator arcade game].
- I edited that out because those are apparently called Palatines. However, that article doesn't cite anything, so most of it could be made up, as far as I know.--Toa Quarax(Talk) 00:44, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
- @ Toa Quarax: I found the article on palatines on alien species wiki. The link is here. Deathblade 100 (talk) (Contribs) 04:03, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
At first, I thought the Raven from Aliens: Colonial Marines was a Praetorian. Guess I got them mixed up because of the large size. Oops. Iamtheravager (talk) (Contribs) 13:08, May 23, 2016 (UTC)iamtheravager