Talk: Michael Bishop

Name

Should we call him Michael Bishop Weland or just Michael Bishop. If he is a desendant of Charels Bishop Weyland the he should have the last name Welyland with Bishop being his middle name...T-888 16:50, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Charles Bishop Weyland's "Distant Descendant'?

Is that stated anywhere? Spikeygod69 06:53, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Did Michael Bishop appeared in Aliens vs predator 2010 video game at the end of marine missons?

Name (cont'd)

Where exactly did the name Michael Bishop Weyland come from? As far as I'm aware, the character's official name (taken from the film's trading cards) is just Michael Bishop. When did the Weyland get added, and where is the source for it?--Leigh Burne ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 08:41, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

In Stasis Interrupted the subtitles just call him Weyland. Toa Quarax ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 20:38, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

I think it started with Colonial Marines. I too remember him only as Michael Bishop until the game. The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 20:50, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ah I see. Toa is right, the character is identified as Weyland in Stasis Interrupted's subtitles. That still doesn't quite give us his full name, but I guess it's a reasonable assumption. I'll see if I can't work out some references that cites both sources.--Leigh Burne ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 08:25, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Actually the Weyland name might come from Aliens versus Predator 2 because according to the game's article, he is mentioned in some of the notes found in the Pods. Toa Quarax ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 01:47, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting. Unfortunately I never got to play AVP2.--Leigh Burne ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 08:26, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Then I recommend you play it ASAP, forget the mediocre Aliens vs. predator 2010, AVP 2 by monolith was a real Alien vs predator gem. I am sure there are still copies of the game around but by now it will be quite hard to find. I have the game so I will check out the notes to see if that is true. Toa, which level/area specifically can I find the notes you speak of? The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 20:44, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Actually I found some pretty cheap used copies of the game on Amazon. As for the note I really don't know what level it is in the AVP2 article only mentions it is found in the Pods.--Toa Quarax ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 03:41, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

@Cruentus I've been dying to play it for years, but unfortunately, as you say, copies are hard to find, and then there's the compatibility issues with modern operating systems. I keep hoping it will be re-released in some form in the near future — after all, AVP1 has come out on Steam — but so far, no luck.--Leigh Burne ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 08:20, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Actually compatibility is not much of an issue or at all I think. I have played it fine on this computer and another, both which are quite modern. Like Toa said, Amazon may have copies. Yes, I heard about the steam thing as well, that would be very good if they can get AVP2 on there but I heard nothing is happening because they haven't got permission yet(copyright) or something. If there is a note around saying Michael's name as a weyland then I shall try and find it next I find myself on AVP2. The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 16:08, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Cruz actually calls him "Michael Weyland" in ACM.--Toa Quarax ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 19:33, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Forgetting for a moment there doesn't seem to be any conceivable way Cruz could know the guy's name at that point... Good job, I missed that!--Leigh Burne ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 07:33, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Name (cont'd again)

More name debate — Alien: The Weyland-Yutani Report calls him Michael Bishop throughout, never once mentioning the name Weyland. Thoughts?-- LEIGH BURNE^(Talk) 10:05, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Does the book mention anything about A:CM at all? if not then it may be a case of canon discontinuation or they are simply just ignoring it. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 10:21, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Nope, no mentions at all. In fact, one of the guys involved in the development of the book on AVPGalaxy has confirmed that, as far as the report is concerned, nothing from the expanded universe before Out of the Shadows is considered. Fox decided it would just be impossible to try and tie it all together, so they only included the recent stuff.

Whether that constitutes a retcon or not is highly debatable, but we do now have two different, distinct names for this character.-- LEIGH BURNE^(Talk) 08:07, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

In all honesty, I can't say I would be sad to see A:CM retconned, it screwed up big time. Good work on updating pages with W-Y info by the way. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 13:54, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Me either, but I'm wondering if this page should be renamed. We now have the report and the Alien³ Collectible CardArt claiming his name is Bishop, and the game claiming his name is Weyland. Which should take precedent? I don't wanna say go with Bishop just because I don't like ACM, but at the same time the Bishop name does have the most sources backing it up.

And no problem :) -- LEIGH BURNE^(Talk) 08:45, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

I get what you mean, we can't be biased but if "Bishop" does indeed have the more sources referencing it, use that as the primary name but mention that he is called weyland in other sources. Just my opinion on the matter. This is the issue with the expanded universe, so many conflicting information. It wouldn't kill devs, authors etc to stick to one continuity but they never do. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 12:55, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

OK. Well I'll leave it a few more days to see if anyone else wants to contribute, but if there are no objections I'll rename the page.-- LEIGH BURNE^(Talk) 10:46, August 17, 2015 (UTC)